Comment On Before Until

I suspect rhymes with Percolator means Purolator Courier, a North American courier run by Canada Post.

hehe, nice error, After must be before Until

Seems some dummy values were left in or javascript checked wrong things (not element.value but element.name)
(first :P)

I suspect you mean 18 Liter, not 16 Liter bottles.

Makes perfect sense if you ask me.

"Any time after must be at least 1 hour before until."

They are trying to say that every specific point in time comes after another one, but 1 hour before the one that comes up 1 hour later.

P.S. Chrono Trigger was a great RPG.

BiggBru:

Makes perfect sense if you ask me.

"Any time after must be at least 1 hour before until."

They are trying to say that every specific point in time comes after another one, but 1 hour before the one that comes up 1 hour later.

P.S. Chrono Trigger was a great RPG.

Pure genious!

I prefer riddles instead of information I can use in my error messages. "File Not Found" should be "It's an object, yet not one here."

The On/before/until message is a pretense to the time machine that "Percolator" intends to build. No wonder you are all confused.

When will then be now? Soon.

It actually makes sense to me, they're capitalized indicating they refer to field names. For example:

Deliver Any Time After: 4pm
Until: 5pm

Arguably "And Before" would be a better name than Until, but it still makes sense in context.


Captcha: bling

The real WTF is that it's on Vista

Caleb:

It actually makes sense to me, they're capitalized indicating they refer to field names.

In which case, the correct, non-WTF, message would be something like "The time in the 'Any Time After' box must be at least 1 hour before the time in the 'Until' box."

(OK, maybe I'm a little too verbose, but at least it doesn't look like gibberish!)

Caleb:

It actually makes sense to me, they're capitalized indicating they refer to field names.

It certainly makes sense now, but it couldn't hurt to use a more readable sentence, like "you must allow at least one hour for delivery." That way, they could change the interface text (e.g., "Delivery between __ and __") without needing to change the error message.

THAT INFO KNOWLEDGE MUST SHOULD COMMUNICATE YOU WITH UP

Does anyone else get annoyed when people try to use their "superior intellect" to explain away EVERY "WTF?" on this site? Because I certainly get annoyed by that.

Caleb:

It actually makes sense to me, they're capitalized indicating they refer to field names. For example:

Deliver Any Time After: 4pm
Until: 5pm

Arguably "And Before" would be a better name than Until, but it still makes sense in context.


Captcha: bling

That's why I'd quote the field names in order to make that obvious (to most folks, anyways).

Solik:

THAT INFO KNOWLEDGE MUST SHOULD COMMUNICATE YOU WITH UP

I think we can close this thread now, since this comment basically says it all.

Zach:

Does anyone else get annoyed when people try to use their "superior intellect" to explain away EVERY "WTF?" on this site? Because I certainly get annoyed by that.

Statistically, it is likely you're not alone.

Am I helping?

Spaceball One:

When will then be now? Soon.

I always have coffee while I watch radar! You know that!

PSWorx:

Pure genious!

Purolator genius.

Matt Foley:

"File Not Found" should be "It's an object, yet not one here."

This value is neither True nor False.

Melchior is either a fan of opera, 16 liter bottles, or Chrono Trigger, or maybe he just has a weird name

Isn't Melchior one of the traditional names of the Three Wise Men from the Bible? (Along with Caspar and Balthasar)

Actually this is perfectly understandable if you are familiar with the courier industry.

"Any Time After" and "Until" refer to restrictions on when a package may be delivered. What this dialog says is that a 1 hour window is the smallest window for delivery permissible.

For instance, you may request that a package may be delivered "Any Time After" 3:00PM "Until" 4:00PM.

Simple.

SuperousOxide:

Melchior is either a fan of opera, 16 liter bottles, or Chrono Trigger, or maybe he just has a weird name

Isn't Melchior one of the traditional names of the Three Wise Men from the Bible? (Along with Caspar and Balthasar)

Yes, although the Bible does not give them names or even tell us how many of them there were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi#Names

Chrono Trigger, how I love thee...


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Someone You Know:

Solik:

THAT INFO KNOWLEDGE MUST SHOULD COMMUNICATE YOU WITH UP

I think we can close this thread now, since this comment basically says it all.

Perhaps the error message was written by a fan of e. e. cummings?

anyone lived in a pretty how town
(with up so floating many bells down)
spring summer autumn winter
he sang his didn't he danced his did

The simple use of quote marks would've saved this error message from appearing on Error'd...

Zach:

Does anyone else get annoyed when people try to use their "superior intellect" to explain away EVERY "WTF?" on this site? Because I certainly get annoyed by that.

He may have superior intellect, but his thinking is very 2-dimensional.

You owe the Oracle 1 genesis torpedo.

SuperousOxide:

Melchior is either a fan of opera, 16 liter bottles, or Chrono Trigger, or maybe he just has a weird name

Isn't Melchior one of the traditional names of the Three Wise Men from the Bible? (Along with Caspar and Balthasar)

Also known as The Magi.

hahah, chronotrigger reference :P

The real WTF is that they misspelled 'Ultimo' :-)

LOL!

Catcha: "ewww" - wtf!?!

shadowman:

I always have coffee while I watch radar! You know that!

Of course we do, Sir!

reminds me of this:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

wiki

The meta-WTF, in both the traditional and newspeak ("worse than failure") senses is that it takes two extra clicks to show the article and the comments on one page.

Coming from a Canadian company, the real WTF is that there isn't any broken French too.

ChrisH:

Zach:

Does anyone else get annoyed when people try to use their "superior intellect" to explain away EVERY "WTF?" on this site? Because I certainly get annoyed by that.

Statistically, it is likely you're not alone.

Am I helping?

There are three kinds of lies:
Lies
Damned Lies
Statistics

What you say?

The Major:

shadowman:

I always have coffee while I watch radar! You know that!

Of course we do, Sir!

How many A$$holes do we have on this ship?

Yes, and in the original (Japanese) release of Chrono Trigger, they didn't use those names for the three Gurus -- they had three one-syllable names, along the lines of "Bu, Gu, and Mu". (Which is where the "Nu" name probably came from.)

zyne:

I suspect rhymes with Percolator means Purolator Courier

Does "percolator" rhyme with purolator?

I'd say, "sufficiently". But it doesn't rhymes well with Courier.

¿CONOCES A MIGUEL? ¡SI! SOMOS BUENOS AMIGOS...

Nice. As a developer, I get to write a lot of error messages. I totally understand where that sentence comes from. Imagine this form:

Time After: 2:00 PM
Until: 8:00 PM

So any "Time After" must be at least 1 hour before "Until". Logically, it makes sense. Rationally, it does not. This is where a good developer would take an extra few minutes to think up:

"The time in the 'Until' field must be at least 1 hour later than the time in the 'Time After' field."

Or just rename the fields to something non-ambiguous.

Clearly, it's time for the percolator!

Zach:

Does anyone else get annoyed when people try to use their "superior intellect" to explain away EVERY "WTF?" on this site? Because I certainly get annoyed by that.

I don't mind people explaining why a perticular WTF happened. However, I hate when said people do it as if we were 5 years olds or 30 IQ, or explains it for the fifth time, using an almost copy-pasted post from another person.

Power is beautiful and I have the power.

IMSoP:

Caleb:

It actually makes sense to me, they're capitalized indicating they refer to field names.

In which case, the correct, non-WTF, message would be something like "The time in the 'Any Time After' box must be at least 1 hour before the time in the 'Until' box."

(OK, maybe I'm a little too verbose, but at least it doesn't look like gibberish!)

I wondered about the wierd capitalization, but I couldn't make sense of the error message until I read the explanation here in the comments. It still leave me wondering why the word "Hour" is capitalized.

the schwartz:

The Major:

shadowman:

I always have coffee while I watch radar! You know that!

Of course we do, Sir!

How many A$$holes do we have on this ship?

Before you die, there is something you should know about us...

I Am Your Father's Brother's Nephew's Cousin's Former Roommate

There are untold masses with English and Communications degrees yearning to hold jobs. Why can't these companies hire them to write the UI text?

I believe that this warning dialog applies to a search form. The matching times start "After" the first field, and continue "Until" the second field. This is an open time interval, such as (6, 10], in hours.

I would write the dialog this way:

The "After" field must have a time value at least one hour before the "Until" field.

Of course, I would choose better names for the seach form fields!

um... I think I might have been involved in writing some of this software.

Basically they're talking about pickup times. So basically the carrier can come pick up the package "Any Time After" 2:00pm "Until" 5:30pm. It's a hard question. When doing JavaScript validation how do you point people back to errors on the page? I think this code would just pull what was inside the label for the input box and display it in the validation. I guess a custom error message would have been better, but it's still kind of hard to express.

Perhaps, "Your pickup window expires before it begins"?

I'm going to start leaving error messages in ROT13... Make those fuckers think first.

SuperousOxide:

Melchior is either a fan of opera, 16 liter bottles, or Chrono Trigger, or maybe he just has a weird name

Isn't Melchior one of the traditional names of the Three Wise Men from the Bible? (Along with Caspar and Balthasar)

Yes.

... 16 liter bottles...

Litre! Litre!

:D