Comment On A Y2K Holdover

"After close consideration," writes Nick, "I've decided that my mayo really expired on Feb 19, 2008, not 1908. Apparently, Y2K bugs never seem to expire... [expand full text]
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Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:02 • by Shambo (unregistered)
I hope you have been sitting on that mayo picture for a while. It is kind of late to just throw that out of the fridge.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:04 • by Warren (unregistered)
I typed "world peace" into Google and eBay sponsored "World peace. Great selection at low prices!"

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:11 • by h (unregistered)
Or, maybe, February 19th? One can never be sure...

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:19 • by tgies (unregistered)
That first one is pretty dumb; it's obviously 2008-02-19. I see that format for expiration date stamps all the time.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:21 • by notawtf (unregistered)
203913 in reply to 203912
tgies:
That first one is pretty dumb; it's obviously 2008-02-19. I see that format for expiration date stamps all the time.


This. Not a WTF.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:22 • by Drved (unregistered)
How does the mayo know to expire at exactly 05:31? Is that local time, GMT, or the time zone of the manufacturing plant?

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:27 • by dkf
203915 in reply to 203914
Drved:
How does the mayo know to expire at exactly 05:31? Is that local time, GMT, or the time zone of the manufacturing plant?
Local time. The mayo jar has an atomic clock and GPS built into it.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:30 • by me (unregistered)
So... let me get this straight: "Ferdy" decided it's real funny to name a VPN "Europe and Middle East" and submit resulting screenshot here. And the real WTF is that Alex accepted and published this infantile submission, right?

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:35 • by Andy Goth
One time I saw the year given as "19108".

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:35 • by Tom_fan_63 (unregistered)
203918 in reply to 203912
tgies:
That first one is pretty dumb; it's obviously 2008-02-19. I see that format for expiration date stamps all the time.

You're amazing! Nobody could understand this without your help... Thank you!!! And pleaze, send me teh code ;-)

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:35 • by Cursorkeys
203919 in reply to 203914
Drved:
How does the mayo know to expire at exactly 05:31?


Expiry dates really annoy me. We have people here that try and throw milk out just because 'the label says it's off'... suggest to them that they smell or taste it first and they look at you aghast.

I don't know why the pot of honey I bought yesterday has a date at all, it's never going to bloody well go off.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:35 • by Joseph
Nick, it doesn't matter if that Mayo expired Feb 1908 or Feb 19, 2008 because it expired a while ago. That is unless FEB1908C is month followed by year in hex... then it would be good for another 100532 years. Then again, the whole date could be in hex.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:38 • by Maarten Sneep (unregistered)
"50% off!?," Dan noted, "with those kind of savings, I could start two wars in Iraq!"

No, you can't. You can't even afford a single war in Iraq.

Maarten

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:41 • by Anon (unregistered)
Imagine if that mayo had an expiry date a few days later. Hmm... FEB2308, still good for 300 more years...

BTW, those two digit dates on food really annoy me. What's 0908? Can't you print two more digits or just drop the useless time and print a proper date instead?

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:44 • by tin
The real WTF is that the Iraq War one didn't include an eBay ad offering great "new and used Iraq Wars".

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:45 • by ParkinT
203924 in reply to 203922
Anon:
Imagine if that mayo had an expiry date a few days later. Hmm... FEB2308, still good for 300 more years...

BTW, those two digit dates on food really annoy me. What's 0908? Can't you print two more digits or just drop the useless time and print a proper date instead?

I always wondered why the 'Expire' included a time.
Can I really use that Mayonnaise right up until 5:04PM?

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:54 • by pitchingchris
The one on Operating Systems probably made a poor assumption that it would only be used on Windows.

So when he tried to get the Operating System version and instead of it saying Windows XP Operating System, it used a null string. Still a WTF nonetheless.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:59 • by Alan (unregistered)
203930 in reply to 203919
Cursorkeys:

I don't know why the pot of honey I bought yesterday has a date at all, it's never going to bloody well go off.


To make you throw out some perfectly servicable honey and buy more.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 08:59 • by D0R
If you look closer at the error dialog, you can spot a two-spaces gap between "with" and "Operating Systems".
This means that the string was
"This setup is for users with $OS_NAME Operating Systems only" and somehow the programmer forgot to assign the $OS_NAME variable properly.
Still a WTF, but a smaller one.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:00 • by pitchingchris
203932 in reply to 203924
The time is there to pinpoint what time it was bottled. This is helpful if there are some Quality problems. The best buy date is always X number of days from the time of bottling. I agree its a WTF that they can't add 2 more digits. On the flip side of the coin, they may be trying to make the string as short as possible to not draw attention to it.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:01 • by Spectre
The last one is hardly a WTF. The two dates are probably generated by two different algorithms; sometimes the first one comes earlier, sometimes the second one does. Of course, the software could've determine the earliest date by itself, but heck, maybe both are important.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:05 • by D0R
I was writing my comment at the same time as Pitchingchris -- he was in advance of five mins, though ;-)

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:05 • by laoreet (unregistered)
The last one isn't a WTF either. Business file 4 times a year, and it just saying that records are dumped from their system two times a year.

This keeps people form saying "I submitted them 9 months ago!"

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:12 • by OzPeter
203940 in reply to 203932
pitchingchris:
On the flip side of the coin, they may be trying to make the string as short as possible to not draw attention to it.


Most likely the length of the message is constrained by the printer that sprays the date code onto the bottle as well as the speed of the processing line.

The print head would typically have all the nozzles for a single line of text (fixes the message width) and the dwell time of the jar under the print system sets the number of rows that you can print.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:13 • by Anonymous Cow-herd (unregistered)
My money's on the "Operating Systems" one being from an MSDN disc, and should read "MSDN Operating Systems" (as in http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa718657.aspx)

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:21 • by Me (unregistered)
203943 in reply to 203936
laoreet:
The last one isn't a WTF either. Business file 4 times a year, and it just saying that records are dumped from their system two times a year.

This keeps people form saying "I submitted them 9 months ago!"


Since the code displays both dates, how hard would it be for it to compare the two and just display the one that comes first? Sounds like a WTF to me...a lazy programmer WTF

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:24 • by SenTree
203945 in reply to 203940
OzPeter:
Most likely the length of the message is constrained by the printer that sprays the date code onto the bottle as well as the speed of the processing line.

The print head would typically have all the nozzles for a single line of text (fixes the message width) and the dwell time of the jar under the print system sets the number of rows that you can print.

Absolutely correct (I used to work on these). The print head is fixed in relation to the conveyor, and the product moves past - not even stopping. On the fastest types, the ink is continuously pumped through the nozzles, and steered electrostatically (to the target or the recirculating collector). The print head is a big chunk of precision-machined stainless steel, cost proportional to width. A 'cheap' system might only have a head width of about one inch, 48 nozzles, which would match the photo.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:34 • by Edss (unregistered)
TRWTF is mm/dd/yy

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:43 • by AMerrickanGirl (unregistered)
203951 in reply to 203921
Maarten Sneep:
"50% off!?," Dan noted, "with those kind of savings, I could start two wars in Iraq!"

No, you can't. You can't even afford a single war in Iraq.

Maarten


One of the best comments I've ever seen on this site.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:44 • by M L (unregistered)
203953 in reply to 203924
ParkinT:
Anon:
Imagine if that mayo had an expiry date a few days later. Hmm... FEB2308, still good for 300 more years...

BTW, those two digit dates on food really annoy me. What's 0908? Can't you print two more digits or just drop the useless time and print a proper date instead?

I always wondered why the 'Expire' included a time.
Can I really use that Mayonnaise right up until 5:04PM?


The time is not there for you. By using the expiration date + time, the manufacturer and retrailers can determine EXACTLY when a product was produced. Therefore, if a manufacturer knows that there was a bad lot produced around 5PM, it knows it should discard/cancel the product lot with times around there.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:50 • by Zecc
203954 in reply to 203918
Tom_fan_63:
tgies:
That first one is pretty dumb; it's obviously 2008-02-19. I see that format for expiration date stamps all the time.

You're amazing! Nobody could understand this without your help... Thank you!!! And pleaze, send me teh code ;-)
Shut up. Tom_fan_63 is making a valid point.
Edit: on second thought, if the date had been before the 13th, it might not have been so obvious; so the format is a bit wtf-ish.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:52 • by KenW
203955 in reply to 203921
Maarten Sneep:
"50% off!?," Dan noted, "with those kind of savings, I could start two wars in Iraq!"

No, you can't. You can't even afford a single war in Iraq.

Maarten


Well, only if I gave up coffee and beer.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:55 • by vambala (unregistered)
203956 in reply to 203915
dkf:
Drved:
How does the mayo know to expire at exactly 05:31? Is that local time, GMT, or the time zone of the manufacturing plant?
Local time. The mayo jar has an atomic clock and GPS built into it.


Exactly. So if you realize that your mayo just expired a few minutes ago you should very quickly send it to someone who lives in a different time zone. (in western direction). Then it will be usable again for a short time...

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 09:55 • by Pope
Ahhh... Now I see. George Bush has been shopping from the "Cripple Our Economy" online store. Clbuttic mistake.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:04 • by Pope
203960 in reply to 203919
Cursorkeys:

I don't know why the pot of honey I bought yesterday has a date at all, it's never going to bloody well go off.


No, but it will turn into that delicious blend of honey with coagulated, granulated goodness. That texture mixed with a peanut butter sandwich is heaven, I tell ya. Heaven.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:04 • by Peter (unregistered)
203961 in reply to 203916
me:
So... let me get this straight: "Ferdy" decided it's real funny to name a VPN "Europe and Middle East" and submit resulting screenshot here. And the real WTF is that Alex accepted and published this infantile submission, right?

The Dutch electronics giant Philips uses this as the name for its VPN software to be used by 120,000+ employees. I don't know if they chose the name or if this is a default in the VPN software though.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:09 • by gutch
203962 in reply to 203916
me:
So... let me get this straight: "Ferdy" decided it's real funny to name a VPN "Europe and Middle East" and submit resulting screenshot here.


Actually Contivity VPN Client is usually set up by big corporates with preconfigured VPNs to the company's own networks. The name would usually be set by system admins...

That said, I'm not above a bit of infantile naming. My careful choice of name when signing up for a particular real estate newsletter still makes me smile long after the joke should have worn off:

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:29 • by mauhiz (unregistered)
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Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:29 • by danixdefcon5
203982 in reply to 203946
Edss:
TRWTF is mm/dd/yy
Seconded. dd/mm/yyyy is the reason I don't get bungled even when products have two-digit years. 29MAY08 ... oh no, DON'T EAT THAT CHEESE!!

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:33 • by leppie (unregistered)
Once again, idiots cant read. FEB1908 is 19 February 2008. If you want to be stupid, please return to the 20th century...

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 10:40 • by shinobu
203987 in reply to 203912
tgies:
That first one is pretty dumb; it's obviously 2008-02-19. I see that format for expiration date stamps all the time.


You missed the "C". It's obviously an unix timestamp: Fri, 29 May 2105 14:15:40.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 11:01 • by Boner (unregistered)
204002 in reply to 203906
Shambo:
I hope you have been sitting on that mayo picture for a while. It is kind of late to just throw that out of the fridge.


Are you kidding? I just threw one out from May 2007...

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 11:07 • by Anonymous Coward (unregistered)
204006 in reply to 203982
danixdefcon5:
Edss:
TRWTF is mm/dd/yy
Seconded. dd/mm/yyyy is the reason I don't get bungled even when products have two-digit years. 29MAY08 ... oh no, DON'T EAT THAT CHEESE!!


Thirded. Damned american date formats. yyyy-mm-dd <3

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 11:23 • by Ozz (unregistered)
204016 in reply to 203932
pitchingchris:
The best buy date is always X number of days from the time of bottling.

Reminds me of some items I saw in a store recently (bags of walnuts). The 'Best Before' date was Feb 29, 2009. I'm guessing they were packaged on Feb 29, 2008 and the system blindly just upped the year (like MS SQL Server did for their certificates...)
I KNEW I should have taken a pic...

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 11:37 • by Matt.C
204027 in reply to 203985
leppie:
Once again, idiots cant read. FEB1908 is 19 February 2008. If you want to be stupid, please return to the 20th century...


Fine, I admit it. I can't read.

Which character am I getting wrong?

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 12:22 • by Iris (unregistered)
The mayo's not a Y2K bug.

That's a 'We're too cheap to put in a printer that will print the extra 2 digits' bug.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 12:31 • by Meow... (unregistered)
204054 in reply to 203920
The Mayo expired Circa Feb 19, 08 5:31.

<.<

You guys know that food expiration dates are just hours from manufacturing date right, and that they normally just round to the nearest day?

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 12:34 • by pitchingchris
204056 in reply to 204006
Anonymous Coward:
danixdefcon5:
Edss:
TRWTF is mm/dd/yy
Seconded. dd/mm/yyyy is the reason I don't get bungled even when products have two-digit years. 29MAY08 ... oh no, DON'T EAT THAT CHEESE!!


Thirded. Damned american date formats. yyyy-mm-dd <3


Since it was bottled in America, than TRWTF is yall complaining about it.

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 12:34 • by Joe (unregistered)
I can save you 90% on the War In Iraq, if you sign up for a 2 months subscription

Re: A Y2K Holdover

2008-07-02 13:11 • by Stewie (unregistered)
204074 in reply to 203917
One time I saw the year given as "19108".

Actually, that is probably day 191 of 2008.

Ian
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